Bio
Born in Whakatane in 1936, Margaret Mahy has lived in New
Zealand her entire life. A former children's librarian, she
decided to become a full time writer in 1980. From picture
books to YA novels, the age groups for which she writes vary
as much as the characters in her stories. She won a British
Library Association's Carnegie Medal for THE HAUNTING in 1982
and THE CHANGEOVER in 1984. In 1993, Mahy received an Order
of New Zealand, the highest honor a citizen can receive.
Interview
Baffled as to how YA author Margaret Mahy manages to perfectly
capture adolescent sensibilities without sacrificing an exciting
and compelling plotline, Teenreads.com staff writer Audrey
Marie Danielson decided to take her query to the source. So,
after reading 24 HOURS, Mahy's latest, Audrey landed an interview
with the author and finally got a chance to ask her about
the difficulty of compressing a whole, twisting-turning story
into 24 hours, the inspiration behind her book, and what advice
she might have for aspiring writers.
Teenreads: 24 HOURS is eerie and exciting. How did you
achieve the balance between stopping time and moving forwards
without compromising the story?
MM: In both 24 HOURS
and an earlier book, MEMORY, a young hero finds himself entering
a time zone in which a particular drama, a mixture of real
life and fairy tale, is acted out. (Of course sometimes real
life is rather like a fairy tale. Not all fairy tales are
entirely unrealistic.) Anyhow, time seems to operate a little
differently within these contained zones, and both heroes
find themselves involved in a series of events that, while
they are not fantasies, are still fantastic. And at one stage,
time stops for Ellis, the hero of 24 HOURS. This is partly
because he's been drinking but also because of the strange
circumstances in which he finds himself. He feels as if he
has entered a timeless state. However, time does not stop
for the reader, who is continually reminded that it is flowing
implacably on. Writing the story, I tried to make events that
were (intentionally) confusing to Ellis clear to the reader
and hoped that the two states would work together.
Teenreads: What inspired you to write a story that only
uses events that happen within 24 hours?
MM: There is nothing
directly autobiographical about this story. All the same,
there have been times when I have gone out to visit friends
and progressed from one party to another and have had a similar
feeling of timelessness to the one that Ellis experiences
along with a feeling of space and adventure. In a matter of
a few hours I would experience exhilaration, join in with
cheerful conversations, see people in the process of falling
in love and witness great arguments and fights (I've never
actually been a fighter myself --- fighting tires me out and
I'm not an efficient fighter anyway --- but I have certainly
seen other people have great complicated goes at one another).
By the time ordinary life asserted itself once more, I would
feel I had already lived for a while in some other lifetime,
that I had even taken over someone else's life. I am not recommending
this sort of experience, but I think that in writing this
particular story I was remembering the quality of it all.
Teenreads: Did you find it challenging to develop your
characters, plot, and setting in such a short span of time?
MM: Yes, I did find
it challenging, but interesting too. Ellis's understanding
of himself and the world around him certainly develops because
of his adventures, and part of that development comes through
recognizing other people for what they are. In the end, for
example, his confrontation with Christo Kilmer enables him
to see that Christo, for all his unpleasant and even psychotic
ways, is vulnerable. He is insecure and unhappy and, like
a lot of unhappy people, wants to compensate by spreading
his unhappiness out around him. Ellis's understanding is advanced,
and art (in his case, his acting) becomes something more than
an abstract exercise [like] something flatly pinned to a page
or a wall or acted out on a stage. His acting becomes part
of real life something he can use. I thought hard about the
story, wrote and rewrote it, working my way into it --- and
acted bits of it out in my head.
Teenreads: Are the characters in 24 HOURS based on real
people or are they solely the products of your imagination?
MM: They are imaginary
characters. But perhaps not solely the products of my imagination,
since there are some aspects of the characters that relate
to my own experience of a wide variety of people. I once knew
a house rather like The Land of Smiles --- an old house occupied
by a varied collection of young people, mainly students. However
none of these people were true models for the characters in
the book, though their way of life may have been.
Teenreads: Many of your books, most specifically 24 HOURS
and MEMORY, deal with the protagonist trying to come to terms
with the untimely death of a friend or relative. Why do you
return to this theme?
MM: I don't know that
I would say many of my books deal with this theme. I hope
I am not too repetitive. However, coming to terms with death
is part of the general human situation. When I was a child
I had a best friend who lived across the road from me. When
her mother died unexpectedly it was like losing a member of
my own family. I think I am still affected by the memory of
that loss. However, I also think the uncertainty of life is
part of a central human mystery, and either loss (or fear
of loss) tends to haunt us all. And in this case some experience
of death was probably necessary for the hero, since in the
end he confronts the kidnapper and is able reinforce Shakespeare's
thoughts on death with the power of his own experience and
conviction.
Teenreads: How do you research your books?
MM: I read, and talk
to people. In the case of 24 HOURS, for example, I did some
research into the work an undertaker does. I talked to undertakers
and asked them a lot of questions and I read one or two books.
I soon had more information than I either needed or used.
On the whole, the stories I write do not involve me in a great
deal of research, since I am inventing the story and can set
my own rules to a considerable extent. Still, one has to make
anything one writes as convincing as possible, and there are
times when research is essential.
Teenreads: Do your characters ever take over your story?
MM: In a way, the characters
often do take over. There are certainly times when my own
everyday life seems to retreat so the life of the story can
take me over. That is why a writer often needs space and time,
so that he or she can abandon ordinary life and "live" with
the characters. There have been times when the act of writing
(which is a way of living in the story) has actually changed
the story. One of the simplest examples of this is in a short
story I wrote called "The Great White Man-Eating Shark." The
hero, Norvin, dresses up as a shark and frightens people away
from a swimming space in order to have it all to himself.
Halfway through writing (and living in) this particular story,
I found myself suddenly wondering what would happen if Norvin's
acting was so good that he actually fooled another shark.
I had always known that at the end of the story, Norvin would
be terrified by a real shark; but it was only when I was actually
writing the story that I found myself suddenly wondering what
would happen if a female shark, fooled by his disguise, should
fall in love with the disguised hero. It can certainly happen
that characters in more sophisticated stories can "take over"
as they develop and change the author's original ideas. Well,
it certainly happens to me at times.
Teenreads: You started writing at a very young age. When
did you decide to be a writer?
MM: My theory is that
I decided to be a writer when I was about seven, but of course
it is not as simple as that. Like most writers, I had to work
at other things to earn a living and wrote mainly in the evenings,
often very late at night, for many years. I was about 33 when
I got my first book published and about 43 when I began to
make my living as a full-time writer. I had to wait for a
long time before I could support myself with writing. However,
being a writer is what I have most wanted to be, from the
time I was a child.
Teenreads: Do you feel your previous work as a librarian
helped your writing career?
MM: Being a librarian
certainly helped me with my writing because it made me even
more of a reader, and I was always an enthusiastic reader.
Writing and reading seem to me to be different aspects of
a single imaginative act. Though, of course, when you are
reading, someone has done a lot of work on your behalf, someone
has had ideas and has then written and corrected and improved
them so that they can be shared. When you are writing, of
course, you have to do all that writing and correcting for
yourself. When I was a librarian it was expected that I would
know about a wide range of books. Indeed, I wanted to know
about them and I read extensively. Not only that, I read reviews
and journal articles where books were discussed so that I
found it easy to have ideas as to which books I liked (and
why) and which books I didn't. I was able to work out all
sorts of attitudes to style and event and character, all of
which affected the way I came to think about my own writing.
I believe that all good writers are original. At the same
time, I think books create a sort of network in the reader's
mind, with one book reinforcing another. Some books form relationships.
Other books stand in opposition. No two writers or readers
have the same pattern of interaction.
Teenreads: : How do you stay involved with young people
and their current trends?
MM: At this stage I
am not involved with young adults as closely as many other
writers. My children are grown up and my grandchildren are
still quite young. However, anyone interested in the world
generally can't help being interested in young adult culture
--- in the music, the bands, the books, the fashions, and
the way in which the young adult community develops its own
language. I stay in touch after a fashion through reading
and listening in. Within another three or four years (if my
grandchildren and their friends are still speaking to me)
I will be in everyday touch once more, but I will still read
and listen in. Many years the writer of girls' school stories,
Angela Brazil was sometimes criticized for her use of authentic
British schoolgirl idiom, "slang." It was felt she was endorsing
careless speech. Apparently, she used to listen in on conversations
in trains to make the dialogue in her books as realistic as
possible. At present I tend to do a lot of listening in, in
shops and on street corners, and to the boys next door talking
to their friends. They don't know that I am there on the other
side of the hedge taking notes, mental notes anyway. It isn't
quite the same as having teenagers in the family, but it works
reasonably well.
Teenreads: You write for many age groups. Which do you
like best?
MM: I don't think I
prefer writing for one age group above another. I am just
as pleased with a story which I feel works well for very small
children as I do with a story for young adults. Of course
there are big differences in length and character and vocabulary,
but each level has its particular pleasures when it comes
to the words one can use and the way one uses them. Writing
for young children I find I often use particular jokes with
words and exaggerated, funny events, but some of these haunt
the more complex stories for older children too. The novels
take longer to write than the picture book texts, and they
do take a different sort of concentration. However, a very
short, simple story that works well is just as exciting to
me as any longer and more complex book...
Teenreads: Do you have a favorite place in which to write?
MM: I am really chained
to my computer these days so I work in my bedroom, which is
a room I have worked in for years and years. It is just as
much an office as a bedroom, and during the day, my bed is
rather like an extension of my desk. Behind me, as I work
answering these questions, stands a filing cabinet and shelves
and shelves of books; there are books piled on the floor beside
the chairs. On my left is the printer. On my right is a fax,
and my little old cat Orsino (she is 19-years-old --- old
for a cat) sleeps on the fax because it is always warm. Most
efficient offices don't have to dust cat hair out of their
faxes. Behind my computer there is a long thin window, and
the window sill is crowded with photographs of my two daughters
and their children. The wall beside the door opening into
the rest of the house is hung with a collection of masks from
various parts of the world. Some of them are very strange.
They watch me work, very seriously for the most part, though
there is one mask, a Japanese mask, that has a slight ---
a very slight, barely noticeable --- smile. As I write this
my cat is sitting up and washing her tail, turning around,
and collapsing onto the fax machine yet again. (If I am correcting
a printed-out story I often take it outside and work in the
garden.)
Teenreads: Do you ever write settings other than New
Zealand?
MM: Quite a lot of my
stories for younger children have settings other than New
Zealand. They are set in a sort of story-nonsense land, the
sort of land where anything can happen. However, all the young
adult novels have a New Zealand setting. New Zealand is the
only country I know well enough to write about. It can sometimes
lead to complications. A young adult can get a driving license
at the age of 15 in New Zealand, and if I describe a 15-year-old
legitimately driving, people in some other countries think
I must have made a mistake. Editors then insist that I explain
the driving license situation instead of simply taking it
for granted. It sometimes makes me more self conscious about
details than I really want to be.
Teenreads: What was the best book you read recently?
MM: At the moment I
am reading two books, a biography of the New Zealand novelist
Janet Frame and a novel by John Le Carre who, roughly speaking,
writes spy stories. Both of these books are too heavy to read
in the bath, however, so I am also reading a thriller by Elmore
Leonard, great for reading in the bath (or a spa pool!). All
these books are very good books in different ways, but one
of the best books I have read over the last few weeks is THE
POISONWOOD BIBLE by Barbara Kingsolver, and my favorite young
adult novel has been CLOSED STRANGER by the New Zealand novelist
Kate de Goldi.
Teenreads: What advice would you give aspiring young
writers?
MM: Every writer has
to find their own way into writing. My general advice would
be to read a great deal and to know within yourself why certain
books work well for you. And I think aspiring writers often
need to be reminded how important it is to be persistent.
Every now and then a young writer has a first book published,
and the book is well-reviewed, widely read and successful.
However, this is rare. Most people have to go through a stage
of putting a lot of work into their books and then having
them turned down. I think it is a good thing for a writer
to have several ideas turning over (though he or she may still
need to concentrate on one particular idea at a time) so that
if one does not work out there are others which can move in
to take its place. It is a good idea to know which publishers
publish which stories. For example, there is no sense in sending
a picture book text to a publisher who does not publish picture
books, so it is a good idea to check the appropriate reference
books in the public libraries (some of these books give publisher's
addresses along with their preferences when it comes to submitted
manuscripts). I, personally, have found reading a continual
support to writing. I think I am too interested in my own
ideas to copy anyone else's, but I find that other people's
imagery, the flow of language in the outside world, games
with words, and ideas about relationships are all most important
to me. Most writers I know (and by now I know a lot) read
widely.