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Norma
Fox Mazer
INTERVIEW
August
25, 2000
Norma Fox Mazer is a prolific and beloved YA author who has
entertained readers of all ages with her realistic and poignant
stories. Teenreads.com writer Audrey Marie Danielson, a longtime
fan, had the chance to ask the author some questions. Find
out about her next book GIRLHEARTS, which is a follow up to
the popular SILVER, coming out in Spring 2001, in addition
to learning more about Mazer, her writing, and her family
of authors.
TBB: What prompted you to write GOOD NIGHT, MAMAM? It's
a very different Holocaust story.
NFM: An editor told me
about Ft. Oswego and asked if I'd be interested in writing
a novel about the historical event. I have lived in northern
and central New York State all my life, but I had never heard
of these events or the refugees. It was under my nose, and
I'd missed it completely! I hadn't had any intention of writing
a Holocaust story until then, but this intrigued me, maybe
partly because of its close physical connection to the place
where I lived.
TBB: In GOOD NIGHT MAMAM was it difficult fitting a fictional
character into a true story and still remaining true to the
historical facts?
NFM: I think that any
historical fiction has this same problem. I had to write this
novel over completely at least four times, and this was because
I was working out how to balance fiction and history. While
writing GOOD NIGHT, MAMAN, I read a fair number of books,
most of them memoirs of people who had lived through the Holocaust.
What struck me was that despite the numbing universality of
that murderous time each person's story, each survivor's story,
was unique, individual, distinct. Of course this is an obvious
truth, but I needed to be reminded, so that I would remember
as I wrote that my intention in writing this book was not
to write history, but to write the unique history of an individual,
albeit a fictional one.
TBB: Can you tell us about the book that's coming out in
August by Arthea J. S. Reed entitled, NORMA FOX MAZER: A WRITER'S
WORLD?
NFM: Actually, no, as
I haven't seen the text. Dr. Reed [who's better known as Charlie]
interviewed me, I supplied her with copies of articles and
books I'd written that she was unable to find, and that's
about the extent of my knowledge of the book.
TBB: What is it like to collaborate with your husband? Do
you ever argue about what should go or stay in a story? Can
you estimate a percentage of how many of your books are written
separately?
NFM: Last question first.
I've published 29 books. Harry has published 20 [I think].
Of those, we wrote three together, THE SOLID GOLD KID, HEARTBEAT,
and BRIGHT DAYS, STUPID NIGHTS. In other words, what we do
is write separately and then, on rare occasions, write a book
together. About working together, yes, of course, we argue.
We're very different, our writing styles are very different,
and we're both strong minded. Nevertheless, we work together
well, and we keep promising ourselves to write another book
jointly. Maybe next year.
TBB: In WHEN SHE WAS GOOD, Em Thurkill is quite a character.
Is she based on a real person or is she strictly out of your
imagination?
NFM: As with almost all
my characters, something real is at the core, while everything
else is imagined. In this case, the tiny core of Em was a
glimpse I had one day of a woman who stopped in to say hello
to my mother in her apartment building. That was probably
20 years ago, but there was something about that moment that
stayed with me and inflamed my imagination.
TBB: You started off writing pulp fiction. Would you tell
us what that was like?
NFM: It was hard work.
Harry and I both did this to support our family and live as
writers. Every week, for eight years, we each wrote a 5000
word short story. Just coming up with that many ideas, when
I think of it now, so many years later, boggles my mind. We
worked a 7 day week and every hour we could catch while also
caring for 4 kids who, when we began, were all under the age
of ten. But we were happy. We learned so much during those
years. How to write a story, how not to be afraid of words,
how to sit in a chair and face the blank paper [typewriter
days], how to draft and not kill yourself because what comes
out is not the vision in your mind, and how to revise, revise,
revise to get as close as you can to the story you want to
tell. All things that have stood us both in good stead through
the years of writing novels.
TBB: What made you decide to switch to children's and young
adult novels? Can you tell us a little about the transition?
NFM: Well, we always
wanted to write novels. The pulp fiction we did was originally
out of necessity. We had those four kids to support. Necessity
turned out to be a wonderful teacher, but we were both always
angling to find time to write a novel. Our then agent told
us the children's market was "hungry," so I decided to try
that and sold the first novel I wrote. That was a big incentive
to write another one!
TBB: Do you write young adult short stories as well as
novels? What can you tell us about writing short stories that
is different than writing a novel?
NFM: I have published
two collections of short stories, DEAR BILL, REMEMBER ME?
and SUMMER GIRLS, LOVE BOYS. Both of them are out of print
now, and I haven't read the stories in a long time; but they
were well received by reviewers and kids. Now I write quite
a few short stories for anthologies other people are putting
together. I love writing short stories. There are some ideas
that don't require a novel, and yet ask the writer to fully
imagine the world. That, in itself, is satisfying, but so
is the fact that I can write a story in a month or even less.
After struggling to complete my new novel over the past three
years, you can imagine how lovely it is to get a piece of
imaginative writing finished in a month.
TBB: Has your writing changed or evolved through the years?
NFM: I think so. I hope
so. I'm always wanting to write better than I have before,
to write a novel that will really be terrific. There's so
much to think about in writing novels --- the story you're
telling, the words you use, how you use them, how you choose
them, the effects you hope to create, and so on. Also, I've
grown through the years, learned things about life, and I
hope some of that comes into my stories.
TBB: You've written a lot of books. Which of
them have been the most meaningful for you?
NFM: Every one has meant
something to me. At each point that I write a story, I'm attached
to it, I'm invested in it. Once I write a book, the attachment
is not lost, but loses its power. For three years, I've been
working on and constantly thinking about my new novel, GIRLHEARTS.
I finished it at the end of June, and I knew it was really
done when, overnight, I stopped thinking about it. There's
almost a snap when that happens, as if a rubber band has broken.
TBB: Do you have a favorite character?
NFM: Not really. My latest
book is usually the one I'm closest to at the moment, so right
now Sarabeth Silver from GIRLHEARTS appeals to me very much.
TBB: How involved do you become with your characters?
NFM: As with every aspect
of writing a novel, it's a process. I know that's cliche now,
but it's true. As I write and rewrite and revise and think
and imagine and dream and write again and involve the characters
in the story, I become closer and closer to them and know
them in a deeper way. There comes a time when I understand
my characters so well that I know exactly how they will act
and react at any moment, and that's wonderful, exciting; but
it's also when I know that I'm just about through with the
book.
TBB: How long does it take you to write a book, and do
you work on more than one at a time?
NFM: Most of the books
I've written have been finished in a year, but some of them
have taken two or three years, and a few rare times I wrote
books in less than six months. I've never worked on more than
one book at a time. I wish I could!
TBB: I understand you've just sold your first picture book.
How much different was it writing in this genre? What problems,
if any did you encounter? What is the name of the book?
NFM: It was very different
writing a picture book, and yet the same. A story is a story
is a story. But in a picture book, it's all trimmed down to
the essentials, and I work on each word in a much more focused
way than I ever have with a novel, which is so much more capacious.
The title is HAS ANYONE SEEN MY EMILY GREENE?
TBB: How do you decide exactly what you want to tell in
a story? Do you have a preconceived idea, or does it come
as you write? Do your characters drive your story?
NFM: I don't decide exactly
what I want to tell. I have an idea which I hope can be expressed
in a single sentence or paragraph, so that I can always return
to the core of what's driving me to write the story. For instance,
for TAKING TERRI MUELLER, the core idea was "A girl is kidnapped
by her father." That was exactly the words in which the idea
for the story came to me. But they don't all work out so neatly.
All kinds of things come as I write, all kinds of surprising
developments. As for the characters driving the story, character
and plot and theme are so interwoven that I always find it
a little artificial to talk about any element alone.
TBB: When did you decide to become a writer?
NFM: When I was 13.
TBB: Was there a particular author or teacher that made
you decide to write?
NFM: No. I've always
loved to read. I taught myself to read when I was 4 or 5 and
read voraciously from then on. The love of reading and of
stories perhaps led to my want to be a writer. I've never
known exactly why at the age of 13 I knew that this was what
I wanted out of life.
TBB: What is your favorite young adult novel? Who are your
favorite contemporary authors?
NFM: Impossible questions
to answer. I have no single favorite book or favorite author.
I live in a house filled with books in every room. I think
there are more fine young adult books today than ever before.
TBB: What words of advice or encouragement would you give
a teenager who wants to become a writer?
NFM: Read and write.
Read all the time. Read anything. Read everything. Keep a
journal, keep it informal, keep it for yourself. Write something
in it every day. It doesn't have to be long or "good" or "important,"
although it can be any or all of those. What counts is getting
the habit of writing, of observing and noting. Don't be impatient.
As you write, as you read, as you observe, as you live each
day, you're preparing yourself to be a writer.
TBB: Are you currently working on a new book? If so, can
you tell us a little about it and what the anticipated publication
date will be?
NFM: I mentioned above
the new book and its title, but I'm glad to say it again.
GIRLHEARTS will be published in spring 2001. It picks up the
story of Sarabeth Silver from SILVER. Her young mother dies,
and she's left alone in the world.
TBB: Is there anything else that you would like our teenager
readers to know about you, your family or your writing life?
NFM: My husband, Harry
Mazer, and my oldest daughter, Anne Mazer, both write for
children and young adults --- wonderful, although very different
books. Anne has written picture books --- a lot of people
know SALAMANDER ROOM --- middle grade fiction, young adult
books, and also edited a number of terrific anthologies for
young adults. Right now she's writing a series called THE
AMAZING DAYS OF ABBY HAYES.
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